Julia Sweeney, known for her time on Saturday Night Live (SNL), recently reflected on the controversy surrounding her character Pat. 

The 65-year-old comedian, who portrayed the androgynous character from 1990 to 1994,

addressed the criticism during her appearance on The View as she prepared for SNL 50: The Anniversary Special.

Pat, a character of Sweeney’s own creation, was known for their curly black hair, thick glasses, and gender-neutral wardrobe.

The central joke of the sketches revolved around other characters struggling to determine Pat’s gender.

The popularity of the character even led to a 1994 feature film, It’s Pat.

However, over the years, Pat has been met with criticism, particularly from members of the transgender and non-binary communities, who viewed the character as potentially offensive.

Sweeney Acknowledges Criticism but Defends Pat’s Intent

During her interview, Sweeney acknowledged the backlash but clarified that Pat was never meant to represent a transgender or non-binary person.

“There was some criticism of it, but Pat isn’t trans or non-binary,” she explained. “Pat is a man or a woman—you just don’t know which Pat is. That is the joke.”

Despite standing by the original concept, Sweeney admitted that the criticism affected her deeply. She emphasized that when she and her colleagues were writing the sketches, their intent was never to mock Pat.

Instead, they were highlighting the discomfort and awkwardness of those around Pat, rather than making Pat the subject of ridicule.

“We were really making fun of the other people [in the sketches] not being able to handle the fact that they couldn’t tell,” Sweeney said. “The laughs all came from that. But then, of course, when you’re defending your joke, as we know, you’ve already lost them.”

A New Perspective on Pat’s Legacy

Despite the backlash, Sweeney remains largely positive about the character. She shared that an upcoming documentary explores the impact of Pat, featuring insights from various comedy writers, including those in the transgender community.

“There’s a documentary that got made, and it’s gonna come out this next year,” she revealed. “And there’s a lot of trans comedy writers in LA that were inspired by Pat, that loved Pat.”

Sweeney explained that participating in the documentary felt like a form of therapy for her. After years of questioning whether Pat was ultimately a good or bad influence, hearing from comedy writers who saw value in the character reassured her.

“I’ve been interviewed for three years for this documentary, and it was like therapy for me. It’s like, ‘Yeah, Pat! That was a good idea!’” she said.

Criticism from Friends and a Shift in Understanding

Sweeney has previously spoken about how even close friends were critical of Pat. In an interview with People last year, she recalled that Joey Soloway, the creator of Transparent, once told her that the character was upsetting to them as someone who identified as transgender.

“There were some people in particular—Jill Soloway, who actually is a friend and who’s now Joey Soloway—saying that Pat was derogatory towards nonbinary people and that it was really an upsetting thing as a person of indeterminate gender herself or themselves to even see Pat,” Sweeney explained.

She admitted that the feedback was difficult to hear, as she always believed she had crafted the jokes carefully to avoid making fun of Pat. Instead, she saw Pat as an empowering figure who simply lived their life while others struggled with their own perceptions.

“I felt that I carefully wrote all the jokes to be about the people’s uncomfortableness with Pat, not Pat being uncomfortable with Pat’s self,” she said. “To me, it was an empowering nonbinary thing—and that it was perceived that way was very upsetting.”

A Transformative Experience

In an effort to better understand different perspectives, Sweeney engaged in conversations with 10 transgender comedy writers about Pat’s legacy. To her surprise, many of them had positive feelings about the character.

“They loved Pat,” she shared. “That was a really transformative thing for me to see.”

Hearing their perspectives helped Sweeney reframe her view of Pat.

“Now I feel like, ‘Oh no, it was good and it was important.’ And now all these trans people that I met, this group of 10, all told me how important it was for me to have done that,” she said. “So now I feel, okay, that was okay.”

SNL Celebrates 50 Years with a Star-Studded Special

As Sweeney reflects on her time on Saturday Night Live, the show is preparing for a milestone celebration. On February 16, NBC’s iconic late-night sketch show will mark its 50th anniversary with a special three-hour broadcast, starting at 8 p.m. EST.

The special will bring together a mix of past and present stars, including original cast members like Laraine Newman, Chevy Chase, and Jane Curtin, as well as comedy legends such as Eddie Murphy, Amy Poehler, Adam Sandler, Kristen Wiig, Will Ferrell, and Tina Fey.

In addition to former cast members, the special will also feature celebrity guest hosts who have made memorable appearances on the show over the years. Among the lineup are Adam Driver, Ayo Edebiri, Bad Bunny, Dave Chappelle, John Mulaney, Kim Kardashian, Martin Short, Miley Cyrus, and Paul McCartney.

As SNL celebrates its enduring legacy, Sweeney’s reflections on Pat serve as a reminder of how comedy evolves over time. While the character once sparked laughter, it also prompted meaningful conversations about identity, representation, and the impact of humor.

Through her recent conversations and the upcoming documentary, Sweeney has found peace in knowing that Pat, for better or worse, left a lasting impression on comedy and culture.